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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 19, 2019 17:53:45 GMT
Bolton v Doncaster tomorrow night has now been called due to the welfare of their young players ..... EFL over to you ? EFL are not fit for purpose. They couldn't run a bath. The transfer window closed eleven days ago and still no answer from the EFL. Looks like Bolton just went ahead and called the game off without discussing it with Doncaster or the EFL they have to be punished now EFL can’t let them off again surely ...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 18:00:10 GMT
Looks like Bolton just went ahead and called the game off without discussing it with Doncaster or the EFL they have to be punished now EFL can’t let them off again surely ... 100% right. Bolton have behaved with breathtaking arrogance and cowardice, hiding behind 'welfare concerns' for their youth players. Call off their own fixture? Who the f*** do they think they are? If this is Phil Parkinson's decision I'm afraid he will have gone down in my estimation. A football Club who won't play football. And Doncaster & the EFL only found out through social media. It's well past time Bolton were kicked out of the League and their place given to a hungry non-league team who deserve a break.
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Post by thevalleybest on Aug 21, 2019 17:38:06 GMT
Parky gone.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 18:13:49 GMT
It'll be very interesting to hear anything he has to say on the Bolton situation. I hope Parkinson was not behind the decision of BWFC to refuse to play Doncaster Rovers. Perhaps he resigned because of that?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2019 21:42:19 GMT
Looks like Bolton just went ahead and called the game off without discussing it with Doncaster or the EFL they have to be punished now EFL can’t let them off again surely ... 100% right. Bolton have behaved with breathtaking arrogance and cowardice, hiding behind 'welfare concerns' for their youth players. Call off their own fixture? Who the f*** do they think they are? If this is Phil Parkinson's decision I'm afraid he will have gone down in my estimation. A football Club who won't play football. And Doncaster & the EFL only found out through social media. It's well past time Bolton were kicked out of the League and their place given to a hungry non-league team who deserve a break. Parks is a man of principle.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 4:10:35 GMT
Parkinson wasn’t a success with us but he’s one of football’s good guys. I saw a photo of him yesterday and he’s aged 10 years. He hasn’t been paid at Bolton for six months.
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Post by kings hill addick on Aug 22, 2019 5:10:33 GMT
Parkinson wasn’t a success with us but he’s one of football’s good guys. I saw a photo of him yesterday and he’s aged 10 years. He hasn’t been paid at Bolton for six months. Could it be that he’s aged ten years because it’s nearly ten years since he left us? ;-)
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 22, 2019 5:33:52 GMT
Parkinson wasn’t a success with us but he’s one of football’s good guys. I saw a photo of him yesterday and he’s aged 10 years. He hasn’t been paid at Bolton for six months. Parkinson resigned yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 8:59:29 GMT
I remember Richard Murray saying at a Shareholders meeting that Parkinson came to him wanting to sign a player but Murray said that they had no money. So Parkinson did it out of his own pocket.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 9:49:37 GMT
I remember Richard Murray saying at a Shareholders meeting that Parkinson came to him wanting to sign a player but Murray said that they had no money. So Parkinson did it out of his own pocket. It was Gary Borrowdale.
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 10:23:11 GMT
Parky was known as a really good guy, who managed us in extremely bad times and circumstances. Following on from Pardew’s mess, would’ve challenged the best of managers.
He has proven himself as being a very good and capable manager at other clubs , and I feel sorry that he has found himself in this position with Bolton. Good luck to him wherever he goes next.
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Post by dartford36 on Aug 26, 2019 11:33:42 GMT
The latest deal to buy Bolton has fallen through and unless something is sorted by 17.00 tomorrow the club face expulsion from the league. In fact it is reported that liquidation could commence as early as Wednesday. A sorry state of affairs for this proud football club.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:56:11 GMT
The latest deal to buy Bolton has fallen through and unless something is sorted by 17.00 tomorrow the club face expulsion from the league. In fact it is reported that liquidation could commence as early as Wednesday. A sorry state of affairs for this proud football club. Bleak news indeed. I can't believe anything can be done for Bolton in just one working day. Even the fate of Bury is still on a knife edge, to be decided at exactly the same time; 5pm tomorrow. In the long term it may be better for both the communities in Bolton and Bury if their teams are resurrected from scratch. They surely will both return to the Football League one day, though it may take a decade or a whole generation. In the meantime however thousands of jobs in mostly small firms who supply those Clubs will certainly be lost. Those communities will be gutted, in almost every sense of the word. There seems to be no way to prevent that now, particularly in Bolton's case. When I heard it said on the radio on Saturday that the take-over of Bolton was "very close" I recall thinking at the time how hollow that sounded. A million times we have heard that kind of thing before. "Very close" deals almost never happen. The deals that do get done are the ones done in complete secrecy it seems.
When I posted in harsh terms a while ago about Bolton and Bury needing to be kicked out of the League, I did not understand that such a move would mean instant permanent closure for both Clubs. Naively I imagined they would stumble on somehow in the non-league boondocks rather than just cease to exist.
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Post by jonkool on Aug 26, 2019 13:06:30 GMT
The latest deal to buy Bolton has fallen through and unless something is sorted by 17.00 tomorrow the club face expulsion from the league. In fact it is reported that liquidation could commence as early as Wednesday. A sorry state of affairs for this proud football club. Bleak news indeed. I can't believe anything can be done for Bolton in just one working day. Even the fate of Bury is still on a knife edge, to be decided at exactly the same time; 5pm tomorrow. In the long term it may be better for both the communities in Bolton and Bury if their teams are resurrected from scratch. They surely will both return to the Football League one day, though it may take a decade or a whole generation. In the meantime however thousands of jobs in mostly small firms who supply those Clubs will certainly be lost. Those communities will be gutted, in almost every sense of the word. There seems to be no way to prevent that now, particularly in Bolton's case. When I heard it said on the radio on Saturday that the take-over of Bolton was "very close" I recall thinking at the time how hollow that sounded. A million times we have heard that kind of thing before. "Very close" deals almost never happen. The deals that do get done are the ones done in complete secrecy it seems.
When I posted in harsh terms a while ago about Bolton and Bury needing to be kicked out of the League, I did not understand that such a move would mean instant permanent closure for both Clubs. Naively I imagined they would stumble on somehow in the non-league boondocks rather than just cease to exist. You have to say that the extinction of AFC Wimbledon and it’s rise back through the ranks is the only positive part of the sad Bolton and Bury stories.
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Post by bigandy99 on Aug 26, 2019 22:28:15 GMT
Mismanagement surfaces eventually - be careful what you wish for
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Post by rationaladdick on Aug 27, 2019 1:11:47 GMT
There simply are not enough "good" potential owners in the world with enough free capital willing to lose millions every single year with an average return on turnover of -50% per year. Not for 72 clubs in one country in lower leagues, especially with the catastrophe of relegation every year hanging over their heads for the privilege. Bury got promoted last season to League One and only averaged 4,200 in attendance. They have not had over 6,300 in average attendance since 1969. That's not exactly going to attract rich whales or even quasi-rich ones. I fear there will be an avalanche of these come the next recession. I know many say this has been predicted before and does not happen, but I really do think a major, culture-changing re-alignment is just a few years away.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 4:21:14 GMT
The last hope for Bolton Wanderers may be if a previously unknown potential buyer is waiting in the wings, having decided not to step forwards until the last possible moment in order to gain some advantage over the Club and the EFL; to put them in a corner so to speak.
In theory there is a bit more leeway for the EFL to extend the deadline for a decision in Bolton's case, as I think BWFC have only missed one or two league fixtures this season because of their current situation (not all of them so far, as Bury have).
But I don't know if the EFL will accept being 'mucked about' by a last-minute bidder for Bolton. So many jobs and so much football heritage is at stake that they might show some flexibility. But the whole Bolton saga has been going on so long that they may have decided enough is enough now and they must act.
Also of course, the motivation and 'good' intentions of a buyer who deliberately remains in the shadows until the last possible moment must be open to question. Why would they seek to buy the Club 'blind' so to speak, without doing any formal due diligence?
Are there fates worse than instant and permanent closure for BWFC?
Unlike Bury, I would think Bolton Wanderers does have potential for big crowds attending in the future.
Anybody rich enough to be able to support Bury FC more or less indefinitely and willing to take on that responsibility by 5pm today will surely be doing it purely from a romantic desire to save a piece of English football heritage, and not be bothered at all by the money they are going to lose indulging such a wish.
Perhaps there are a few people or organisations out there with that much spare money and noble intentions. I understand that most of the richest individuals from the world of business (in the Western world anyway) have given away vast sums of money to charities.
Perhaps there is a white knight out there willing to fund Bury FC, as a working museum piece if nothing else? We have preserved coal mine pit heads and industrial mills as curiosities for tourists and students of the future to visit and experience. Why not a preserved provincial Football Club? Especially one that still plays real fixtures.
Or would that too be a fate worse than immediate closure.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 14:58:00 GMT
The Bury sale is apparently off too. The buyer has pulled out citing escalating complexities unearthed during due diligence. it will be hard to extend the breathing space much further for Bury and their fans. I hope they can create some sort of phoenix club, and hopefully the ground can be preserved, but it all sounds very bleak now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 15:02:38 GMT
A grim hour for English football coming up.
The Bury Deal is off, and Bolton look doomed.
All because faceless spineless wankers like Harvey & Jeavons at the EFL basically allow anybody to own an English league club.
Will be surprised if these people don’t require police protection.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 15:06:12 GMT
It seems really obscene to me that agents of top footballers and top footballers themselves like Alexis Sanchez can take so much money out of the game. Yet a Club like Bury can be allowed to die. With local businesses and supporters being badly affected. The money in the game at the top of the pyramid is disgusting.
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Post by AndyB on Aug 27, 2019 15:33:09 GMT
It seems really obscene to me that agents of top footballers and top footballers themselves like Alexis Sanchez can take so much money out of the game. Yet a Club like Bury can be allowed to die. With local businesses and supporters being badly affected. The money in the game at the top of the pyramid is disgusting. all down to greed mate
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 27, 2019 15:58:54 GMT
It seems really obscene to me that agents of top footballers and top footballers themselves like Alexis Sanchez can take so much money out of the game. Yet a Club like Bury can be allowed to die. With local businesses and supporters being badly affected. The money in the game at the top of the pyramid is disgusting. The virus agrees with you.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 16:04:27 GMT
Duchatelet arselicker Jim White currently disgracing hinself on Sky Sports - appearing alongside a countdown clock timing down Bury & Bolton’s demise. It’s fair to say this isn’t going down to well with fans of any club.
Good old Jim White...anything to get his Botox’d face on the telly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 16:05:21 GMT
It seems really obscene to me that agents of top footballers and top footballers themselves like Alexis Sanchez can take so much money out of the game. Yet a Club like Bury can be allowed to die. With local businesses and supporters being badly affected. The money in the game at the top of the pyramid is disgusting. The virus agrees with you. I’m sure dickplumb comment was like his acting career ...tongue in cheek.
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Post by AndyB on Aug 27, 2019 16:12:18 GMT
The virus agrees with you. I’m sure dickplumb comment was like his acting career ...tongue in cheek. yeah more like a wasp on speed than a virus
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 27, 2019 16:18:26 GMT
This is so sad, and unfortunately I don't think it will stop with Bury and Bolton theres plenty of others struggling to survive at the lower levels and higher.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 27, 2019 16:29:43 GMT
I’m sure dickplumb comment was like his acting career ...tongue in cheek. yeah more like a wasp on speed than a virus I'm gonna sting you later Andrew.
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Post by sardonic on Aug 27, 2019 16:31:46 GMT
This is so sad, and unfortunately I don't think it will stop with Bury and Bolton theres plenty of others struggling to survive at the lower levels and higher. It is sad but both teams spent beyond their means knowing full well what the final result could be. It’s unacceptable that the league do not have better control through ffp or scmp. I’m more sad for the poor businesses who will have a knock on effect as a result of their greed which could bankrupt them. I just hope the rules change as a result of this debacle.
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Post by AndyB on Aug 27, 2019 16:35:52 GMT
yeah more like a wasp on speed than a virus I'm gonna sting you later Andrew. i very much doubt that , I’m very successful at swatting pests
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 17:05:52 GMT
This is so sad, and unfortunately I don't think it will stop with Bury and Bolton theres plenty of others struggling to survive at the lower levels and higher. It is sad but both teams spent beyond their means knowing full well what the final result could be. It’s unacceptable that the league do not have better control through ffp or scmp. I’m more sad for the poor businesses who will have a knock on effect as a result of their greed which could bankrupt them. I just hope the rules change as a result of this debacle. The teams didn’t spend beyond their means...their then owners did. Now it’s the loyal fans & the local community that will pay the penalty. I’ve just been listening to a piece on the radio about how many small traders in the indirect supply chain will be affected in Bury. I still don’t understand why the EFL can’t extend the deadline.
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