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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:00:57 GMT
Even by the recent standards of the EFL, it will be absolutely scandalous if they expel Bury from the football league today.
A fine old English football, deep rooted in its local community, about to be destroyed because of one utter scumbag of an owner.
With a number of buyers lined up, I can’t understand why the EFL can’t extend their bogus deadline for at least another week?
Let their fixtures back up ...so what ? It’s a price worth paying to save them. It’s very clear from social media that the fans of clubs having their fixtures delayed support the Bury cause.
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Post by revilo on Aug 23, 2019 6:06:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:10:43 GMT
Problem is the owner won't sell. Neither will he guarantee funding for the season. The EFL cannot make him sell, or pay players wages.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:16:31 GMT
Can't say I agree Royston, sad though the situation is.
If the owner of Bury won't sell it but cannot prove he has funds to run it, then the EFL has no choice but to expell the Club.
Perhaps it's time Bury fans thought about an alternative - AFC Bury?
For all I know something might be happening on that front anyway.
In the end the old Bury FC belongs to Steve Dale.
It's his to do whatever he wants with, including letting it die.
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Post by hairyhotdog on Aug 23, 2019 6:19:46 GMT
Didn’t he buy the club for a quid...? Why did the EFL let him buy it if he didn’t have funds to sustain it..?
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Post by cafc2002 on Aug 23, 2019 6:27:51 GMT
Their overspending to win promotion last season has cost them dear, ambition is fine when you have the money the cover the expenditure but when you dont you end up with owners like Steve Dale, sound familiar?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 6:49:19 GMT
The fans did not moan when the club where pay championship wages on a national league budget sorry but bury have had this coming bye bye and Bolton come back when you can get your house in order and pay your bills
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 7:32:50 GMT
The fans did not moan when the club where pay championship wages on a national league budget sorry but bury have had this coming bye bye and Bolton come back when you can get your house in order and pay your bills Was your opinion of Bury the same back in 1984 when the 11th hour was coming down on us? |
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Post by AndyAddick on Aug 23, 2019 8:42:55 GMT
i dont understand why Bury are being thrown to the lions BUT Bolton are still allowed to trade with their corrupt owners !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 9:14:06 GMT
Didn’t he buy the club for a quid...? Why did the EFL let him buy it if he didn’t have funds to sustain it..? I read elsewhere they were on the brink, this Dale came in as a white knight, and given the limited time frame the EFL waved him through without doing the fit and proper persons check or even looking to see if he had funds. The problem was if they had blocked him, Bury would have gone out of business with apparently a buyer waiting in the wings being held back by the bad old EFL. So they let him buy, and bnow things are even worse. On CL there is a rumour there is an eleventh hour buyer coming in and Dale is prepared to sell. Whether he does or not is another matter - terrible to see a historic club like Bury in this state. But there have been buyers waiting for a while, and the owner who spent one `pound buying the club is still saying no. Something going on there - if it's selling the ground for real estate, I hope the local council energetically block it. |
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 9:15:04 GMT
Can't say I agree Royston, sad though the situation is. If the owner of Bury won't sell it but cannot prove he has funds to run it, then the EFL has no choice but to expell the Club. Perhaps it's time Bury fans thought about an alternative - AFC Bury? For all I know something might be happening on that front anyway. In the end the old Bury FC belongs to Steve Dale. It's his to do whatever he wants with, including letting it die. What you have said is the bottom line, so in that I cannot disagree with you mate. It is a scandalous situation though. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 9:16:22 GMT
Didn’t he buy the club for a quid...? Why did the EFL let him buy it if he didn’t have funds to sustain it..? I did hear on the news a day or two ago that somebody had recently offered to buy the Club from Dale for £1 but he refused. I think it was some kind of football organisation that tries to help struggling Clubs (rather than just asset strippers) but I'm not certain. I only caught the news article in passing. |
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 9:24:59 GMT
The fans did not moan when the club where pay championship wages on a national league budget sorry but bury have had this coming bye bye and Bolton come back when you can get your house in order and pay your bills Was your opinion of Bury the same back in 1984 when the 11th hour was coming down on us? Great response. |
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Post by sardonic on Aug 23, 2019 11:35:00 GMT
The fans did not moan when the club where pay championship wages on a national league budget sorry but bury have had this coming bye bye and Bolton come back when you can get your house in order and pay your bills Was your opinion of Bury the same back in 1984 when the 11th hour was coming down on us? 1962 doesn’t support Charlton. He supports Leeds. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:07:15 GMT
Was your opinion of Bury the same back in 1984 when the 11th hour was coming down on us? 1962 doesn’t support Charlton. He supports Leeds. Then he clearly has a short memory when it comes to his own club under Risdale back in 2007!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:16:58 GMT
Surprised to read your comments @lardiman they are uncharacteristically harsh.
Football clubs are much loved community assets, and every conceivable measure should be taken to protect them from idiots like Steve Dale.
I’d be amazed if the guy isn’t getting police protection. He’s challenged Bury fans to buy the club off him today ....for £2,700,000.
Bless them, they have raised 50 grand.
The Neville’s are from Bury & their Mum resigned yesterday after 30 years at the club. It’s a great shame they can’t step in financially.
Six hours to save Bury.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 17:29:40 GMT
Surprised to read your comments @lardiman they are uncharacteristically harsh. Football clubs are much loved community assets, and every conceivable measure should be taken to protect them from idiots like Steve Dale. I’d be amazed if the guy isn’t getting police protection. He’s challenged Bury fans to buy the club off him today ....for £2,700,000. Bless them, they have raised 50 grand. The Neville’s are from Bury & their Mum resigned yesterday after 30 years at the club. It’s a great shame they can’t step in financially. Six hours to save Bury. I heard on the radio that Dale's daughter had been falsely accused of a hit-and-run traffic incident. And I should think that is just the tip of a very unpleasant iceberg. Dale has undoubtedly outraged an entire community of life-long fans, only the latest of generations of loyal supporters of a wonderful old football Club. And although many people are absolutely furious with him, there can be no excuse for the threats and abuse he and his family will be receiving. Sadly however I acknowledge that kind of thing is inevitable these days. I wish we had a law allowing the EFL to take Bury FC away from Dale and give it over to a group who want to help the Club and are willing to take it on. But no such law exists. If Bury is expelled and closed after midnight tonight I hope that their fans can resurrect their Club, even if it takes a decade or more to regain all they have lost. Dale will forever be reviled in that part of the country and that would seem a fitting fate for him. Very sadly, even if there is some kind of last-minute rescue of the Club as it exists, should Dale still own it only a little time will have been bought. From his increasingly bizarre outbursts it is fairly clear the man is cracking up. He sounds paranoid and is making very little sense now, contradicting himself with almost every new breath he draws. In the short term I cannot see how this mess can end well if Dale will not sell up. This whole tale is a miserable and dispiriting one. It's always the fans who suffer, when they are the ones who least deserve to have their hearts broken.
At the end of the day (literally) the EFL has to put the integrity and the viability of the Football Leagues first. If fixture chaos was allowed to drown them and destroy their credibility because of owners like Dale, potentially hundreds of thousands of jobs and livelihoods in football could be at risk all over the country. Clubs must be financially able to fulfill their fixture commitments, for basic safety reasons as well as all the other more obvious ones. A situation must never arise where thousands of fans travel to a stadium only to find the gates locked against them when they arrive, or the event is not properly stewarded or the ground is unsafe for crowds to be inside. A disaster caused by a skint Club which cuts corners and screws up because it has a rogue owner could cost many lives, and would destroy the image of English League football all around the World. That can never be allowed to happen. I'd make a donation to a Bury fans' fund if they set one up in the future to try to get a new Club off the ground. But I wouldn't give any money to Steve Dale. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 19:03:27 GMT
Dale may yet discover that Karma is a bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 19:13:37 GMT
1962 doesn’t support Charlton. He supports Leeds. Then he clearly has a short memory when it comes to his own club under Risdale back in 2007!! I saw that coming after 3 mins we where spending money we did not have Risdale went lending money on future season ticket sales and needed to be in the champions league every year we had a strike force of kewell viduka smith keane and fowler We crashed and honest folk lost money ie catering people plumbers ect the players where protected then the biggest crook in football arrived in Ken Bates i can still smell his piss to this day i would have taken going in to the evo stick north and coming through the leagues we would be in the championship either way But you cannot run a football club and lose money unless you are a man city or chelsea ect that goes for leeds charlton lincoln or bloody crewe Bury desreve what they are getting |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 19:19:20 GMT
Was your opinion of Bury the same back in 1984 when the 11th hour was coming down on us? 1962 doesn’t support Charlton. He supports Leeds. Correct sardonic Reams ive known for must be 40 plus years and had some cracking times with him and i hope charlton stay up which of course they will |
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Post by pardew123 on Aug 23, 2019 19:32:54 GMT
Sad story regarding bury. Roland’s a nutter but at least we won’t fold with him in charge😔
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Post by jonkool on Aug 23, 2019 20:10:06 GMT
Sad story regarding bury. Roland’s a nutter but at least we won’t fold with him in charge😔 Well there you go - so many nutters owning EFL clubs. There are so many out there that it has become an ‘ugly’ contest! It’s got to the point where RD appears to be far from undesirable 🥴 |
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Post by willett on Aug 23, 2019 21:15:59 GMT
Bury owner says deal agreed for sale.
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Post by pardew123 on Aug 23, 2019 21:25:57 GMT
Pleased for them and happy where we are to be fair
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 21:34:04 GMT
Dale is a piece of s***.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 23, 2019 21:38:31 GMT
For both Bolton and Bury any further points are incidental.
However, it will be interesting penalties are given as what has happened cannot be taken lightly.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 21:59:13 GMT
Bury owner says deal agreed for sale. Assuming Dale is telling the truth and assuming the EFL finds the arrangement acceptable by midnight I wish Bury FC all the best under their new ownership. They face a huge task it would seem and many more troubles surely lay ahead of them. But if Dale really is going, even a long process of recovery with setbacks and more hardships along the way is better than extinction. |
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Post by oldred on Aug 23, 2019 22:45:56 GMT
Bury owner says deal agreed for sale. Assuming Dale is telling the truth and assuming the EFL finds the arrangement acceptable by midnight I wish Bury FC all the best under their new ownership. They face a huge task it would seem and many more troubles surely lay ahead of them. But if Dale really is going, even a long process of recovery with setbacks and more hardships along the way is better than extinction. I agree lardi, whatever the foolishness and mistakes of owners, the loss of a football club has a massive impact on its fans and local community. It’s heartbreaking for its fans, and would have a major impact on businesses supplying the club and local businesses in the area who’s trade largely depends on those fans attending the matches. Many of the food outlets in the area would have suffered already, with the cancellation of matches. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 5:15:33 GMT
Now that Dale has said he's agreed to sell Bury FC there can be no more delaying tactics or other bull***t from him.
Assuming the EFL will approve it, this deal has to be done quickly so the Bury can begin playing fixtures again. Already I believe they have six postponed games to catch up on.
If Dale doesn't now cooperate with the EFL and give them all the information they need to approve this deal it will be another absolute disgrace. They must not allow him to string them along any further.
However Dale's track record so far is not good. I am still concerned that he is just playing a game of some kind and that this whole mess might still conclude with the expulsion of Bury FC.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 24, 2019 5:21:34 GMT
For both Bolton and Bury any further points deductions are incidental. However, it will be interesting what penalties are given as what has happened cannot be taken lightly. |
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