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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:12:16 GMT
Bob Whitehand has Tweeted this morning that Duchâtelet should immediately double the wages of Bowyer, Jackson & Gallen - and then incentivise them to deliver promotion to the Premier League.
Bob says it will be the best £700,000 that Duchâtelet has ever spent.
In the first 45 min last night we saw what this brilliant trio are capable of delivering, even on a shoestring budget. It doesn’t take much imagination - just a bit of vision and ambition - to see what could be achieved at this great club in January if we were in the Top 8.
A new contract for Lyle Taylor, and 3 or 4 quality Championship signings to enable us to challenge Leeds and Fulham for promotion.
Every season this league throws up a surprise package - why can’t we be this year’s Norwich or Huddersfield?
The ultimate irony is that by showing a bit of ambition in January, Duchâtelet could see us promoted, sell the Club at a huge Premier League inflated profit...and not leave London with his tail between his legs.
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 10:14:51 GMT
Bob Whitehand has Tweeted this morning that Duchâtelet should immediately double the wages of Bowyer, Jackson & Gallen - and then incentivise them to deliver promotion to the Premier League. Bob says it will be the best £700,000 that Duchâtelet has ever spent. In the first 45 min last night we saw what this brilliant trio are capable of delivering, even on a shoestring budget. It doesn’t take much imagination - just a bit of vision and ambition - to see what could be achieved at this great club in January if we were in the Top 8. A new contract for Lyle Taylor, and 3 or 4 quality Championship signings to enable us to challenge Leeds and Fulham for promotion. Every season this league throws up a surprise package - why can’t we be this year’s Norwich or Huddersfield? The ultimate irony is that by showing a bit of ambition in January, Duchâtelet could see us promoted, sell the Club at a huge Premier League inflated profit...and not leave London with his tail between his legs. If only mate, we can only dream I fear, but what a dream that would and could be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 10:58:43 GMT
Or the directors can stop demanding their loans back in full and help with getting the takeover done ... then perhaps there will be more money to spend on wages !! Their money, their decision Colin!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:03:34 GMT
Their money, their decision Colin! Then don’t demand others to spend theirs !! Go and tell him then!
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 22, 2019 11:06:28 GMT
I think it’s a bit early for these kinds of talks... promotion (with investment)?
We’ve only played 4 games!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:14:29 GMT
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Post by willett on Aug 22, 2019 11:19:51 GMT
Or the directors can stop demanding their loans back in full and help with getting the takeover done ... then perhaps there will be more money to spend on wages !! What an absolutely ridiculous post! Glad you''ve been called out on it!
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Post by harry69 on Aug 22, 2019 11:26:17 GMT
Sorry Bob -I am not on twitter - so hope you read this post.Firstly many thanks for your continued loyalty to our great club.I echo everything you say.Momentum is priceless and we have this at the moment and need to make hay whilst the sun shines😀.Do you guys have any communication with Roland.If only some common sense could prevail we would be all happy - including Roland.Thanks again.COYR
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:33:19 GMT
I think it’s a bit early for these kinds of talks... promotion (with investment)? We’ve only played 4 games! Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:34:47 GMT
Their money, their decision Colin! Then don’t demand others to spend theirs !! Next time you lend me a tenner Colin, I will wait 6 years then demand you accept £2 in weekly instalments. These. Guys. SAVED. The. Club.
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Post by aaronaldo on Aug 22, 2019 11:36:47 GMT
I think it’s a bit early for these kinds of talks... promotion (with investment)? We’ve only played 4 games! Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition. Completely agree. We do however need to keep our ‘feet on the ground’ a little.
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 11:38:08 GMT
I think it’s a bit early for these kinds of talks... promotion (with investment)? We’ve only played 4 games! I’m not sure that anyone is getting too far ahead of themselves tbf, it’s just nice to think for a moment about what could be with some ambition and investment. We’ve been ‘down in the dumps’ for a bit too long, and it nice to be on the way back.
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Post by willett on Aug 22, 2019 11:39:36 GMT
Would love that to happen mate but no chance with RD!
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Post by bexleyboy on Aug 22, 2019 11:39:42 GMT
Or the directors can stop demanding their loans back in full and help with getting the takeover done ... then perhaps there will be more money to spend on wages !! What an absolutely ridiculous post! Glad you''ve been called out on it! He still not answered it ... so no it’s not a ridiculous post
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:41:02 GMT
Nothing wrong with a bit of ambition. Completely agree. We do however need to keep our ‘feet on the ground’ a little. We are all pleasantly surprised at what we are seeing - I know I am. That 45 min last night was tika-taka....remember our midfield under Russell Slade ?
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Post by willett on Aug 22, 2019 11:41:21 GMT
What an absolutely ridiculous post! Glad you''ve been called out on it! He still not answered it ... so no it’s not a ridiculous post Just like you haven't responded to his tweet.
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Post by oldred on Aug 22, 2019 11:42:41 GMT
Would love that to happen mate but no chance with RD! You’re probably right mate unfortunately, but he can be unpredictable at times.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 11:46:08 GMT
What an absolutely ridiculous post! Glad you''ve been called out on it! He still not answered it ... so no it’s not a ridiculous post You are an embarrassment Colin. I know for a fact that the ex Directors have read the crap you have spouted on here. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone, but they are not impressed with you. How about you show a bit of respect to 4 decent blokes who sunk their own money in when the club needed it most?
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Post by willett on Aug 22, 2019 11:51:05 GMT
He still not answered it ... so no it’s not a ridiculous post You are an embarrassment Colin. I know for a fact that the ex Directors have read the crap you have spouted on here. You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone, but they are not impressed with you. How about you show a bit of respect to 4 decent blokes who sunk their own money in when the club needed it most? I often question whether he is actually a Charlton Fan with some of he posts he comes out with.
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Post by hairyhotdog on Aug 22, 2019 12:01:11 GMT
Completely agree. We do however need to keep our ‘feet on the ground’ a little. We are all pleasantly surprised at what we are seeing - I know I am. That 45 min last night was tika-taka....remember our midfield under Russell Slade ? Exactly this.. a lot of people said last night would be our toughest test so far , time will tell actually how good Forest will be this season , but no one can fail to be impressed with that first half performance... Ok we may not have the best squad on paper but so far in the 4 games played we definitely haven’t been out of our depth and sitting there last night I can’t imagine a team coming to the Valley and us at least not matching them... NB... please stop posting stuff that I agree with Royston as it’s unnerving me 😉
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 22, 2019 12:09:20 GMT
Or the directors can stop demanding their loans back in full and help with getting the takeover done ... then perhaps there will be more money to spend on wages !! Wumming well today Colin.
Of course people are going to accept losing hundreds of thousands of pounds.
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 22, 2019 12:10:02 GMT
Their money, their decision Colin! Then don’t demand others to spend theirs !! A seriously ridiculous comment.
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Post by redmidland on Aug 22, 2019 12:28:46 GMT
Or the directors can stop demanding their loans back in full and help with getting the takeover done ... then perhaps there will be more money to spend on wages !! C'mon BB, that is not anything anyone should expect!! As Bob has said in his response to you already, they are not demanding their money back as it is not due to be repaid until we get to the Prem or our current owner wants to pay them back. They gave money to the club in times of dire need, to call them out now is just plain wrong....without them you may not have had a club to support over the last few years!! Lets not forget that. Also, it seems, unless I'm wrong, that all potential bidders have walked away from the table due to RD's ongoing 'dicking' around with T &C's and money at the very least. If The Aussies are still in what on earth is stopping them buying the club right now...today/tomorrow. Them perhaps they can offer the money Taylor wants and add new players in January to give us a chance of getting to the Prem, when, Bob and the other 3 will absolutely deservedly get their money back, and boy oh boy to they deserve to be be repaid....they helped save the club. So please be a little more gracious when speaking about these ex-directors....CAFC is here because of them...please don't forget that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2019 12:57:36 GMT
I think somebody should take that shovel off you Colin. It is pretty simple really, the loans don't have to be repaid till we get to the Premiership. If RD or the new owners want to repay the loans before them, that is down to them. But if the ex directors don't agree to partial payment then I am not going to criticise them for that. They lent the Club money when it was on its arse. They have missed out on interest on that money. Plus, if we don't get back to the Premiership they will lose out.
Colin, this is not meant as a dig, but you blindly follow anything the Club do without any cogent thought.
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Post by willett on Aug 22, 2019 17:10:08 GMT
Henry Irving with a scathing comment about Bexley.
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Post by observer on Aug 22, 2019 17:24:48 GMT
I think somebody should take that shovel off you Colin. It is pretty simple really, the loans don't have to be repaid till we get to the Premiership. If RD or the new owners want to repay the loans before them, that is down to them. But if the ex directors don't agree to partial payment then I am not going to criticise them for that. They lent the Club money when it was on its arse. They have missed out on interest on that money. Plus, if we don't get back to the Premiership they will lose out. Colin, this is not meant as a dig, but you blindly follow anything the Club do without any cogent thought. I think I am correct in saying that these directors' loans are distinct and separate from the money that directors put into the club as equity. My reason for this is that Mike Stevens (who I had the pleasure and privilege of meeting a few times, and who showed great kindness to my family at the play-off final following a ticket-office blunder that dwarfs the recent drummer issue) does not appear in the list of former directors entitled to a payment. Time dulls the memory a bit, but in my recollection Bob Whitehand and Richard Murray in particular put in large sums in equity, which was devalued as much as the comparatively small sums that I and others put in when the shares were on public sale. I believe I am correct in saying that the loans which form the current debate were made over and above equity that had been purchased, and that the loans were made on terms favourable to the club on an interest-free basis with deferred repayment. Mike Stevens did not participoate in the loans and that is why he is not entitled to a payout. If I am correct in this, promoition to The Premiership would allow the loans to be paid off without too much heartache as the prize money from the first year in that league would cover the loans and more. There would be no good reason why loans made in good faith should be written off. Is there any member closer to the financial workings of the Club that might be able to say whether or not I have understood the position correctly?
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Post by ashaddick on Aug 22, 2019 19:09:13 GMT
What an absolutely ridiculous post! Glad you''ve been called out on it! He still not answered it ... so no it’s not a ridiculous post He’s answered it very very clearly. They get nothing, zip, nada, until CAFC are back in the prem, then and only then they get their money in full taken from the huge pot that would be coming our way.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 5:31:36 GMT
And when we do eventually get back to the Premier League, the 4 ex Directors should be guests of honour on the pitch at the opening home game, so that Charlton fans can properly thank them for what they did.
They should put Judas Murray in the stocks & throw rotten fruit at him.
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 23, 2019 8:20:09 GMT
And when we do eventually get back to the Premier League, the 4 ex Directors should be guests of honour on the pitch at the opening home game, so that Charlton fans can properly thank them for what they did. They should put Judas Murray in the stocks & throw rotten fruit at him. Doesn't even begin to make sense! The ex-directors who walked away and didn't put more money in are lauded whilst the one funded 100% of the losses in 2010 is attacked. The irony is that higher up on this thread you have correctly identified that RD's interests coincide with those of the fans and the club. That's to say that promotion to the EPL would make everybody happy. Therefore we all have a choice on a message board: either make a rational appraisal of our squad, our potential and the path to a second consecutive Wembley appearance... or spew bile at anybody connected with running the club. My choice has always been the former which has meant I've avoided mind bending gymnastics last season - whilst the failure to replace Grant was annoying, it was possible to recognise the emergence of one of our best midfield in years. And the first 45 minutes the other night showed that management and squad have the potential to aim for the top half. Another five or six games and we will have a better idea... and then we can have a meaningful conversation about the January window. As for the ex-director loans they are actually quite handy since they are a deterrent to anybody who doesn't have £100M or more to take us forward. Although it looked unlikely 12 months back, we are now in a position today where our best interests might be served by keeping the same set up in place. So yes, reward the management team, reward the best players with new contracts, and bring in another four or five quality players. Nominating who might be replaced in the first XI would be both premature and disrespectful. But by November, Bows, JJ and Gallen will no exactly who we need... and we may need to spend hard cash to acquire the likes of Cullen and any other successful loan - this to make them our player as well as free up loan slots.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2019 9:43:51 GMT
The truth is if the ex directors didn't defer what they were owed we would be in serious trouble, possibly going into administration. Murray at the shareholders meeting said as much. When the minor shareholders, which I was one of them, shares were cancelled. There was no money left. I will always be grateful to those ex directors.
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