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Post by 1978sussex on Aug 18, 2019 14:54:18 GMT
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Post by massivebeak on Aug 18, 2019 14:58:43 GMT
Bit early for that isn’t it! Oh well.
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Post by sardonic on Aug 18, 2019 15:18:37 GMT
It’s the risk you take as a player when you move clubs. Dijksteel is far from the complete player and has limited first team experience especially in a position which is quite new to him at league one level and now has to try to cut it at Championship level.
With the wages comes expectation and unfortunately that was his choice. He’ll need to get his head down and work extremely hard to adapt to his new surroundings and expectancy. I wish him luck but hope Jonny makes him fall on his ass when we meet them in December!!
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Post by ExeterAddick on Aug 18, 2019 15:20:15 GMT
He’s gone into a side with higher expectations, which is underperforming. It won’t be easy for him
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 15:24:36 GMT
Middlesbrough fans have different expectation levels to most Charlton supporters.
Most of us will be happy if our team avoids relegation this season. Even the few who have expressed more ambition than that are unlikely to be over-critical if Lee Bowyer cannot get CAFC into the play-offs or the top half of the table come next May.
Relegation has never entered the minds of 'Boro supporters.
They want and expect a Premier League promotion campaign. If their Club isn't in the top 4 in nine months time many of them will be demanding new management.
That's the step Dijksteel has taken.
He's a big boy now. He should be able to cope with the pressure.
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Post by wellingaddick on Aug 18, 2019 15:26:57 GMT
It’s the risk you take as a player when you move clubs. Dijksteel is far from the complete player and has limited first team experience especially in a position which is quite new to him at league one level and now has to try to cut it at Championship level. With the wages comes expectation and unfortunately that was his choice. He’ll need to get his head down and work extremely hard to adapt to his new surroundings and expectancy. I wish him luck but hope Jonny makes him fall on his ass when we meet them in December!! There were still a lot of rough edges to his game, when he left. It seems that Middlesborough fans have expected a top class Championship full back from the word go and in that, they are going to be disappointed. As for Dijksteel, this criticism will either make him (in the long term) or break him. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 15:35:43 GMT
Dijksteel is Not a full back, he is a converted midfielder. Still has an awful lot to learn.
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Post by wellingaddick on Aug 18, 2019 15:41:26 GMT
Dijksteel is Not a full back, he is a converted midfielder. Still has an awful lot to learn. I know that and you know that, but do the Boro' fans? |
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Post by sardonic on Aug 18, 2019 15:42:09 GMT
Dijksteel is Not a full back, he is a converted midfielder. Still has an awful lot to learn. I know that and you know that @dick Plumb, but do the Boro' fans? They do now!!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 15:45:57 GMT
Middlesbrough fans have different expectation levels to most Charlton supporters. Most of us will be happy if our team avoids relegation this season. Even the few who have expressed more ambition than that are unlikely to be over-critical if Lee Bowyer cannot get CAFC into the play-offs or the top half of the table come next May. Relegation has never entered the minds of 'Boro supporters. They want and expect a Premier League promotion campaign. If their Club isn't in the top 4 in nine months time many of them will be demanding new management. That's the step Dijksteel has taken. He's a big boy now. He should be able to cope with the pressure. He may well realise soon,how well he was looked after at Charlton. I fear that he and his agent have taken a step to soon. There will be no hiding place and like others have rightly said, huge salaries come with huge expectations... I suppose if it doesnt work out, he still has three years of a large salary... |
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 18, 2019 16:21:11 GMT
Middlesbrough fans have different expectation levels to most Charlton supporters. Most of us will be happy if our team avoids relegation this season. Even the few who have expressed more ambition than that are unlikely to be over-critical if Lee Bowyer cannot get CAFC into the play-offs or the top half of the table come next May. Relegation has never entered the minds of 'Boro supporters. They want and expect a Premier League promotion campaign. If their Club isn't in the top 4 in nine months time many of them will be demanding new management. That's the step Dijksteel has taken. He's a big boy now. He should be able to cope with the pressure. He may well realise soon,how well he was looked after at Charlton. I fear that he and his agent have taken a step to soon. There will be no hiding place and like others have rightly said, huge salaries come with huge expectations... I suppose if it doesnt work out, he still has three years of a large salary... The final comment says it all. |
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Post by lukepiestalker on Aug 18, 2019 17:08:52 GMT
Bit early for that isn’t it! Oh well. They expect up there. And they ain't been getting. Agree with the big bucks comments. He will have to perform. |
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Post by oldred on Aug 18, 2019 18:41:33 GMT
Agree with all of the above tbh. It is a bit harsh to judge him yet, but he went there with a lot of hype, and the borough fans probably had too high expectations of him.
He is a good player with the potential to get better, but he is far from perfect and the finished article, as Charlton fans know.
Woodgate must have watched him often enough to see his strengths and weaknesses.
I expect he will rise to the challenge, and hope he is given the chance by the fans there.
If not, the money will be of some consolation I’m sure, but maybe a lesson to other young players who are in too much of a hurry to leave us. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 19:09:40 GMT
A ludicrous over reaction from fans who support a club on a downward spiral.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 21:26:05 GMT
A ludicrous over reaction from fans who support a club on a downward spiral. Dont worry, they will mellow, when on an upward spiral..😉 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2019 21:29:12 GMT
Dijksteel is Not a full back, he is a converted midfielder. Still has an awful lot to learn. I know that and you know that, but do the Boro' fans? Perhaps Lee Bowyer, failed to tell his mate Woodgate that..🤣 |
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Post by seriouslyred on Aug 19, 2019 19:56:10 GMT
A ludicrous over reaction from fans who support a club on a downward spiral. And the award for the 2019 ironic post of the year goes to...  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 19:58:28 GMT
A ludicrous over reaction from fans who support a club on a downward spiral. And the award for the 2019 ironic post of the year goes to... The same person who sent 400 people at the Town Hall to sleep ? |
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Post by elfsborgfranboras on Aug 19, 2019 20:40:05 GMT
And the award for the 2019 ironic post of the year goes to... The same person who sent 400 people at the Town Hall to sleep ? The other 300 walked out. #turncoat |
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Post by dartford36 on Nov 16, 2020 20:09:22 GMT
BBC reporting that Dijksteel has signed a new four and a half year deal at Middlesbrough with Warnock praising his hard work and overall improvement to his game. Pleased for the lad, hope he does well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 20:42:11 GMT
BBC reporting that Dijksteel has signed a new four and a half year deal at Middlesbrough with Warnock praising his hard work and overall improvement to his game. Pleased for the lad, hope he does well. Yeah wish the lad well. |
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Post by kings hill addick on Nov 17, 2020 15:53:51 GMT
Good luck to him. He waited, very patiently, for a chance with us then when he got it with both hands. It sounds like he has done the same at Middlesbrough.
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