jakecafc
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Post by jakecafc on Jul 6, 2019 8:19:32 GMT
We will finish rock bottom with the squad we currently have . We built the side around Bielik and Cullen last season but at this moment in time have absolutely nobody that we can do the same with this season. I don't see one influential players in the side at the moment. I have to agree with this at the moment. Team spirit can only get us so far so need a few top loanees to build the team around come August. Don't forget the transfer window shuts 8th August this year so even less time to get players in with a shit budget. It's gonna be hard but I have faith in Bowyer to pull something out the bag.
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Post by oldred on Jul 6, 2019 9:07:06 GMT
Well this is kinda derailing the positive thread isn’t it ? Maybe it belongs on the other negative thread I think . I’m sure most Charlton fans are expecting a really hard season in the Championship, players like Bielik and Cullen will certainly be missed unless they are replaced with similar quality.
It’s way too early to predict where we will finish, without having a clue what our final squad will look like, there are a number of players still to arrive . I’ll hang on a bit longer to the positivity, as I always do, but it doesn’t stop me from being realistic.I know it’s gonna be tough but no need to throw in the towel so soon .
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Post by maxpike on Jul 6, 2019 10:15:05 GMT
I agree, so much negativity i wonder why anyone supports football teams. Last season I had faith in the ability of our management and won well on my top 6 bets. this season i keep that faith and hope or even expect to win again. In lee and JJ we have motivators and moral builders, over the years many average players have been improved by good management, playing style etc,. also Cullen and Bielik were not ever presents on the pitch and can be replaaced if necessary
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Post by ExeterAddick on Jul 6, 2019 11:27:34 GMT
Pointless asserting where we’ll finish on 6th July. It’s feasible that we could get six or seven new players through the door before the window closes. Only then will any predictions be worthwhile and, as last season showed, it’s still possible that we could defy most people’s expectations.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 6, 2019 20:22:55 GMT
We will finish rock bottom with the squad we currently have . We built the side around Bielik and Cullen last season but at this moment in time have absolutely nobody that we can do the same with this season. I don't see one influential players in the side at the moment. I have to agree with this at the moment. Team spirit can only get us so far so need a few top loanees to build the team around come August. Don't forget the transfer window shuts 8th August this year so even less time to get players in with a shit budget. It's gonna be hard but I have faith in Bowyer to pull something out the bag. It means less time for Premier League clubs to hawk around loan deals. Last summer we had to wait for either the price to come down or Championship clubs to not show interest before we completed the squad. If we can land Williams and Cullen that changes our perspective overnight but there are obviously no guarantees.
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Post by wellingaddick on Jul 9, 2019 15:49:03 GMT
So good to be back in the championship. The Check-a-trade draw was made today and I didn't even realise!
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jul 11, 2019 18:16:44 GMT
Pearce signing a 2 year deal is very good reason to be positive.... Taylor and Anfernee to follow..... 🤞🏽
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jul 15, 2019 10:43:23 GMT
Amos signing on a permanent deal , leaving 5 outfield loans spots available...
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jul 18, 2019 6:18:31 GMT
4-0 away victory in the first pre season game that we actually started a proper defensive unit.... Inexperienced midfield looked promising , Aneke a beast , Boone a finisher , Page is like a new signing AND more players to come in over the next week or so..
We will definitely surprise some teams this year.... COYR
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Post by oldred on Jul 18, 2019 6:33:31 GMT
The emergence of Wiredu this season , plus Morgan looking good and fitter. He could make a bigger impact this season as certainly looks to have the quality.
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jul 18, 2019 15:43:16 GMT
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Post by aaronaldo on Jul 18, 2019 17:01:08 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form).
The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team.
My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us.
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Post by Mundell on Jul 18, 2019 18:47:40 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form). The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team. My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us. Completely agree with that perspective.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 19, 2019 2:11:00 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form). The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team. My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us. Totally agree - this is all about the narrative as well as who signs and who doesn't. One hope's this won't be a repeat of 2015/16 and that we can make it to the halfway point in one piece. Posted elsewhere that it's all about progress - every six months!
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Post by hairyhotdog on Jul 21, 2019 7:18:32 GMT
I’m gonna remain positive and have a little break from the site as EVERY post is becoming so repetitive , we all know we need players but EVERY single thread bangs on about the same thing....
For me , let’s see where we are come 3pm on 3rd August....
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Post by revilo on Jul 21, 2019 7:24:47 GMT
I’m gonna remain positive and have a little break from the site as EVERY post is becoming so repetitive , we all know we need players but EVERY single thread bangs on about the same thing.... For me , let’s see where we are come 3pm on 3rd August.... It's hard to do that when this forum is so God damn addictive!
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Post by oldred on Jul 21, 2019 7:43:57 GMT
I’m gonna remain positive and have a little break from the site as EVERY post is becoming so repetitive , we all know we need players but EVERY single thread bangs on about the same thing.... For me , let’s see where we are come 3pm on 3rd August.... Don’t give up hhd Us hopeful and trying to be positives are trying to hold back the negative/ realists, we need all the help we can get .Especially from LB and his gang bringing in some quality reinforcements.
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Post by seriouslyred on Jul 21, 2019 17:12:34 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form). The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team. My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us. And that's all part of the journey from mid-table third tier to where we are now. We now know how many fans will stick with the side through thick and thin because we've seen the gates for the last three years. People speculated about how many would go should we secure promotion and we will find out in a few weeks time. It's likely to be 15-16,000 which is pretty much bang average for us at this level. So that disproved the narrative that the club is being destroyed, but it's going to be far from an easy ride these next six months. Even if we secure these five loans, our typical opponents will have wage bills and squad values two or three times higher. Some weeks it will be like playing a top six League 1 side and others we will be completely outclassed. But that doesn't stop us backing the lads and enjoying the games, does it?
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Post by northlondonaddict on Jul 22, 2019 20:49:32 GMT
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Post by rationaladdick on Jul 24, 2019 2:10:34 GMT
Reasons to be positive....
1. We have Bowyer 2. We have Gallen 3. We can be 20th and stay in the division 4. We will lose less money than all but a handful of clubs in The Championship in 2019-20, based on estimates, and if we stay up and have a gap between our losses and FFP limits, I think we attract a solid buyer at season's end.
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Post by cafc2002 on Jul 24, 2019 10:14:46 GMT
After our successful 18/19 season which ended with one of the most dramatic finishes in the history of Wembley (imo) I'd like to carry on that euphoria of Bauers 94th minute winner onto this coming season for as long as possible, we've been through so much shit in the last 5yrs so is this really too much to ask? Everyone knows that our budget is shit like it was last season but against the odds and contrary to what some were posting on this forum we made it back to the championship. In Bowyer we have our best manager imo since Curbs and he has the same team ethic and is trying to build the team exactly the same way, so this thread has been created to celebrate the the upcoming season, we'll no doubt have many downs but hopefully more ups after all this is Charlton Athletic and we've never done things the easy way and tbh I wouldn't have it any other way because we're a proper football club.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2019 10:25:03 GMT
After our successful 18/19 season which ended with one of the most dramatic finishes in the history of Wembley (imo) I'd like to carry on that euphoria of Bauers 94th minute winner onto this coming season for as long as possible, we've been through so much shit in the last 5yrs so is this really too much to ask? Everyone knows that our budget is shit like it was last season but against the odds and contrary to what some were posting on this forum we made it back to the championship. In Bowyer we have our best manager imo since Curbs and he has the same team ethic and is trying to build the team exactly the same way, so this thread has been created to celebrate the the upcoming season, we'll no doubt have many downs but hopefully more ups after all this is Charlton Athletic and we've never done things the easy way and tbh I wouldn't have it any other way because we're a proper football club. Good luck with that. Forget Wembley though eh, we won and are now in the Championship and so many fans know deep down that the incoming players won't be good enough. The squad could maybe go one better than last season and go up from L1 automatically if we were still in it but that's it, it's no better than that. No harm in wanting to carry on reveling from the play-off final but sooner or later reality needs to set in and if it doesn't you are just kidding yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 10:26:18 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form). The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team. My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us. They've jumped on the back of the players already and the season hasn't started !
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Post by cafc2002 on Jul 24, 2019 10:27:45 GMT
After our successful 18/19 season which ended with one of the most dramatic finishes in the history of Wembley (imo) I'd like to carry on that euphoria of Bauers 94th minute winner onto this coming season for as long as possible, we've been through so much shit in the last 5yrs so is this really too much to ask? Everyone knows that our budget is shit like it was last season but against the odds and contrary to what some were posting on this forum we made it back to the championship. In Bowyer we have our best manager imo since Curbs and he has the same team ethic and is trying to build the team exactly the same way, so this thread has been created to celebrate the the upcoming season, we'll no doubt have many downs but hopefully more ups after all this is Charlton Athletic and we've never done things the easy way and tbh I wouldn't have it any other way because we're a proper football club. Good luck with that. Forget Wembley though eh, we won and are now in the Championship and so many fans know deep down that the incoming players won't be good enough. The squad could maybe go one better than last season and go up from L1 automatically if we were still in it but that's it, it's no better than that. No harm in wanting to carry on reveling from the play-off final but sooner or later reality needs to set in and if it doesn't you are just kidding yourself. How can you ever "forget wembley" strange comment?
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2019 10:47:46 GMT
I think it’s important to understand expectations for this season. We are going to be in a relegation battle (unless we hit some amazing form). The big thing for me is that if (ok when) we hit a bad run of form, we still support the team. My concern is how quickly some fans could jump on the back of the players/team (even if it’s really aimed at our owner). This type of attitude will make it very difficult for us. They've jumped on the back of the players already and the season hasn't started ! No offence Pat but that is just selective reading by yourself and others suit your rhetoric. I have said umpteen times that the players we have signed have not made us stronger than we were last season and given that we have gone up a major level, you would have expected some improvement at least despite the wanker of an owner we have. A definite improvement in numbers but far less quality than last season's starting 11. Anybody who denies that is not being honest with themselves.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2019 10:52:34 GMT
Good luck with that. Forget Wembley though eh, we won and are now in the Championship and so many fans know deep down that the incoming players won't be good enough. The squad could maybe go one better than last season and go up from L1 automatically if we were still in it but that's it, it's no better than that. No harm in wanting to carry on reveling from the play-off final but sooner or later reality needs to set in and if it doesn't you are just kidding yourself. How can you ever "forget wembley" strange comment? Are you for real?? Jesus wept! where have I said that?? I said forget Wembley in the sense that we won, we got promoted, it was a wonderful day, but now the next chapter begins, an era that we fought so hard to achieve last season, it's serious now we are in the Championship and we need to focus entirely on where we finish next May, not last and at this moment in time we are ill equipped not to make an immediate return to where we came from. Try to stop taking everything I say so literally, you might just get where I'm coming from instead of being so judgemental.
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Post by cafc2002 on Jul 24, 2019 10:58:19 GMT
How can you ever "forget wembley" strange comment? Are you for real?? Jesus wept! where have I said that?? I said forget Wembley in the sense that we won, we got promoted, it was a wonderful day, but now the next chapter begins, an era that we fought so hard to achieve last season, it's serious now we are in the Championship and we need to focus entirely on where we finish next May, not last and at this moment in time we are ill equipped not to make an immediate return to where we came from. Try to stop taking everything I say so literally, you might just get where I'm coming from instead of being so judgemental. That's what you said fella, you said "forget wembley eh".
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2019 11:08:44 GMT
Yes I get that which is why I keep using the reference...At this moment in time in my posts and at this moment in time is all we have to go on. I deal in facts not what might be and won't be.
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Post by reamsofverse on Jul 24, 2019 11:11:30 GMT
Are you for real?? Jesus wept! where have I said that?? I said forget Wembley in the sense that we won, we got promoted, it was a wonderful day, but now the next chapter begins, an era that we fought so hard to achieve last season, it's serious now we are in the Championship and we need to focus entirely on where we finish next May, not last and at this moment in time we are ill equipped not to make an immediate return to where we came from. Try to stop taking everything I say so literally, you might just get where I'm coming from instead of being so judgemental. That's what you said fella, you said "forget wembley eh". Forget it in the context of that day has been and gone, let's deal with the prize from that day instead of the day itself. If that's hard to understand then I'm turning it in for the rest of the day, there's just no point in wasting my time and energy, it's far better spent elsewhere. Hopefully somebody else can come on who gets what I'm saying and explain it to you because clearly I'm not getting through.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 15:49:47 GMT
Anyone......?
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