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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2019 21:40:41 GMT
That Dean Kiely greedy🙄
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Post by reamsofverse on Mar 17, 2019 22:54:43 GMT
Calling him a Judas is quite pathetic- a contract means you hire somebody for a specified period of time and then you renew the contract or it runs down...moving on is the way it is... it doesn’t make him a Judas.. ridiculous attack... In your opinion. |
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Post by bigandy99 on Mar 17, 2019 22:55:25 GMT
Calling him a Judas is quite pathetic- a contract means you hire somebody for a specified period of time and then you renew the contract or it runs down...moving on is the way it is... it doesn’t make him a Judas.. ridiculous attack... In your opinion. As was yours... |
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Post by reamsofverse on Mar 17, 2019 22:56:55 GMT
Got himself in trouble last summer, club stood by him, gave him more game time this season and he fucks of the first chance he gets. Judas, one greedy bastard. Have Charlton signed anyone from a club lower down and give them a pay rise on your reasoning they must be greedy bastards also Let's talk about Leeds' defence against Sheff Utd!!! Wanky Wanky Leeds!!  |
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Post by reamsofverse on Mar 17, 2019 23:00:12 GMT
Best left there then, you have your beliefs, I have mine. Amazing how some of our muggy fans behaved and still do against Scott Parker. Spat in the face I believe when we last played at Fulham and called every cunt under the sun for allegedly jumping ship and ending our European hopes. Some people have short memories, Parker is one of our best ever players but has had the most disgusting levels of abuse aimed at him in the years since he left us. Grant, not even half the player shouldn't get pelters because he came from the academy.....so did Scott . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 0:00:53 GMT
I might have understood if he'd joined a half decent premier club, but he's joined one who we could be playing next season and who's team morale must be extremely low. Sounds more like he left for the money not ambition. Judas? Yes! I don't hear anyone defending Jermain Defoe. What's the difference?
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Post by survivor on Mar 18, 2019 2:12:56 GMT
Always entertaining to see people trying to earn kudos for having an opinion on past events.
Keep it up, I'll go get myself another cornet.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 8:03:24 GMT
Have Charlton signed anyone from a club lower down and give them a pay rise on your reasoning they must be greedy bastards also Let's talk about Leeds' defence against Sheff Utd!!! Wanky Wanky Leeds!! Need you at the back with that belly nothing will get past it 😂😂😂😂 saw you on the pitch the other week ffs thought it was ruddock how did cheltenham week go for you i won more at sprint valley and steepledowns hows your lady friend Pat 😂😂😂😂😂😂 catch up soon |
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Post by AndyAddick on Mar 18, 2019 9:17:00 GMT
I hate all this 'Judas' bollocks, it's a JOB FFS, there's no loyalty in football anymore.
Think we should be digging them out that are not contributing rather than spending time and energy on players that have left
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Post by bexleyboy on Mar 18, 2019 9:19:15 GMT
Out of contact in a few months time lucky to get anything for him .. |
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Post by oldred on Mar 18, 2019 10:57:09 GMT
I hate all this 'Judas' bollocks, it's a JOB FFS, there's no loyalty in football anymore. Think we should be digging them out that are not contributing rather than spending time and energy on players that have left And that is exactly what it is . It’s a job to them , they are not fans . Even players who are fans , like Rob Elliot , won’t turn down the chance to play at a higher level and earn much higher wages . When you think about it , why would they ? As unpalatable as as it may be , it’s hard to even blame the owner for selling an asset now for 2 million,rather than give it away for nothing in the summer . What was wrong , was letting the contract situation on so many players ,get so badly missmanaged . We are in a similar situation now with Aribo , having been messed around over a new contract previously. Mister 2% needs to get his business brain working better . |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 12:51:34 GMT
Looked like a miss hit first, but good play and shot for second.
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Post by kings hill addick on Mar 18, 2019 15:05:40 GMT
I hate all this 'Judas' bollocks, it's a JOB FFS, there's no loyalty in football anymore. Think we should be digging them out that are not contributing rather than spending time and energy on players that have left And that is exactly what it is . It’s a job to them , they are not fans . Even players who are fans , like Rob Elliot , won’t turn down the chance to play at a higher level and earn much higher wages . When you think about it , why would they ? As unpalatable as as it may be , it’s hard to even blame the owner for selling an asset now for 2 million,rather than give it away for nothing in the summer . What was wrong , was letting the contract situation on so many players ,get so badly missmanaged . We are in a similar situation now with Aribo , having been messed around over a new contract previously. Mister 2% needs to get his business brain working better . The issue is that the players want much improved contracts. The club must gamble by doing one of two things: Offer the player much more money and risk being stuck with him if he doesn't develop into a player that you can move on (Ajose, Rezza, Bergdich, Ba, Johnson, Teixeira and so some degree Vetokele). Or risk losing them by not offering them a contract quick enough. The club has done both over the years, Gudmundsson signed a two year extension the season before we were relegated which ensured that we got a fee for him, Konsa had a decent contract when he left and Lookman was on a long enough deal that we managed to get £7.5m+ for him. Joe Gomez had a decent contract when Liverpool came knocking. I know many think we got was too little for him but if his contract had come to an end, I seriously doubt that a development fee would have exceeded the estimated £3.5m plus add-ons. In the case of Joe Aribo I think a big mistake has been made but let's remember that when his offer was taken off the table back in 2018 it was at the same time as Tariq Fosu's offer was withdrawn. I'm quite glad that we didn't give him a three year deal on good Championship money - based on what he has shown to be able to contribute this season. Last spring Grant was loaned out to Crawley because we didn't think he was capable of adding much to our promotion push - when we only had McGuiness, Ajose, an unfit Zyro and a soon to be injured Mavididi, and Holmes had left. At that point who was to know that Grant would be our leading scorer in January 2019 and would attract the interest on a Premier League side? Even if he'd signed a longer term deal I doubt we could have kept him and a dozen third division goals does not translate to the kind of money we got for Lookman - especially when Grant looked between poor and totally inadequate in several of our games. I know he is a striker, and they are there to score goals, but take the goals away from his game and I doubt he would have even been in the side in January. I hope he proves me wrong, a friend of mine knows him and says that he is a lovely young man, but it's a bit early to suggest that he's made it, and there was no way to know what his potential was and I doubt there were any other Premier League clubs interested. |
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Post by hairyhotdog on Mar 18, 2019 18:26:07 GMT
Be interesting to know what other offers were ACTUALLY on the table in January for Karlan , because there was more than a few rumours flying about.. And wether any of those offers allowed for Grant to be loaned back to us for the remainder of the season , because that would’ve suited ALL parties...
And if not , could we have tried more to facilitate this sort of a deal..?
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Post by bigandy99 on Mar 18, 2019 19:27:15 GMT
Best left there then, you have your beliefs, I have mine. Amazing how some of our muggy fans behaved and still do against Scott Parker. Spat in the face I believe when we last played at Fulham and called every cunt under the sun for allegedly jumping ship and ending our European hopes. Some people have short memories, Parker is one of our best ever players but has had the most disgusting levels of abuse aimed at him in the years since he left us. Grant, not even half the player shouldn't get pelters because he came from the academy.....so did Scott . Your opinions are never a problem to me, mate.. I just felt it was a bit OTT... doesn’t mean I’m right...it was just an opinion based on what I read... |
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Post by kings hill addick on Mar 18, 2019 19:28:00 GMT
I'm not sure there were any other offers on the table. Rumors are normally started by the selling club to push the fee up.
As for a loan back, why would a club pay a fee (and wages) for an inform striker that they could sign for free in July and then leave him at the club that they've just bought him from?
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Post by Major on Mar 18, 2019 19:29:21 GMT
Be interesting to know what other offers were ACTUALLY on the table in January for Karlan , because there was more than a few rumours flying about.. And wether any of those offers allowed for Grant to be loaned back to us for the remainder of the season , because that would’ve suited ALL parties... And if not , could we have tried more to facilitate this sort of a deal..? With respect, what is the point of this post occurrence speculation? |
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Post by hairyhotdog on Mar 19, 2019 7:13:34 GMT
I'm not sure there were any other offers on the table. Rumors are normally started by the selling club to push the fee up. As for a loan back, why would a club pay a fee (and wages) for an inform striker that they could sign for free in July and then leave him at the club that they've just bought him from? To secure him before the bidding war come July... |
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Post by hairyhotdog on Mar 19, 2019 7:14:18 GMT
Be interesting to know what other offers were ACTUALLY on the table in January for Karlan , because there was more than a few rumours flying about.. And wether any of those offers allowed for Grant to be loaned back to us for the remainder of the season , because that would’ve suited ALL parties... And if not , could we have tried more to facilitate this sort of a deal..? With respect, what is the point of this post occurrence speculation? No point really... 😀 |
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Post by kings hill addick on Mar 19, 2019 7:51:26 GMT
I'm not sure there were any other offers on the table. Rumors are normally started by the selling club to push the fee up. As for a loan back, why would a club pay a fee (and wages) for an inform striker that they could sign for free in July and then leave him at the club that they've just bought him from? To secure him before the bidding war come July... What bidding war? Once he’s contract expires the club can’t demand a transfer fee. Any compensation would be decided by a tribunal after the player chooses where he wants to go. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Mar 19, 2019 8:14:24 GMT
Best left there then, you have your beliefs, I have mine. Amazing how some of our muggy fans behaved and still do against Scott Parker. Spat in the face I believe when we last played at Fulham and called every cunt under the sun for allegedly jumping ship and ending our European hopes. Some people have short memories, Parker is one of our best ever players but has had the most disgusting levels of abuse aimed at him in the years since he left us. Grant, not even half the player shouldn't get pelters because he came from the academy.....so did Scott . Your opinions are never a problem to me, mate.. I just felt it was a bit OTT... doesn’t mean I’m right...it was just an opinion based on what I read... Fair enough Andy, I just think it's a bit wrong people applauding Grant's decision when one of our best ever players got abuse for doing the same thing and still does to this day . The timing of both players was off and affected both seasons involved but for me Scott Parker is a Charlton legend, a fabulous player for us while Grant was bang average. He has raised his game since his move, he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo at Shrewsbury yet scores a goal like he did last Saturday. Respect your opinion though. |
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Post by hairyhotdog on Mar 19, 2019 10:23:07 GMT
To secure him before the bidding war come July... What bidding war? Once he’s contract expires the club can’t demand a transfer fee. Any compensation would be decided by a tribunal after the player chooses where he wants to go. Apologies . I assumed there would be loads of offers made to Karlan being out of contract , and he would be able to decide which offer/club he wanted to go to... Hence giving a club that bought him in January a guaranteed player , instead of having to make the best package offer to the player , and him actually choosing them... |
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Post by bigandy99 on Mar 19, 2019 16:28:55 GMT
Your opinions are never a problem to me, mate.. I just felt it was a bit OTT... doesn’t mean I’m right...it was just an opinion based on what I read... Fair enough Andy, I just think it's a bit wrong people applauding Grant's decision when one of our best ever players got abuse for doing the same thing and still does to this day . The timing of both players was off and affected both seasons involved but for me Scott Parker is a Charlton legend, a fabulous player for us while Grant was bang average. He has raised his game since his move, he couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo at Shrewsbury yet scores a goal like he did last Saturday. Respect your opinion though. Cheers mate - appreciate your passion as ever |
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