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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 4, 2015 23:36:16 GMT
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Post by bexleyboy on Oct 5, 2015 7:54:06 GMT
Only Scotland I could score 30 goals up there ......
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Post by mesosolly on Oct 5, 2015 8:12:52 GMT
Load of old bollocks, come January it will be we tried very hard to get our targets but we just couldn't get them over the line zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
Get players in at the start of the season not January.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 8:15:48 GMT
I've got to say as good as Tavernier is going forwards, defensively he isn't amazing and I think he'd struggle in the Championship. |
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Post by bexleyboy on Oct 5, 2015 9:48:31 GMT
At least we have seen that Solly is not cutting it anymore ....
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Post by DFT on Oct 5, 2015 9:48:32 GMT
Rangers are building a squad under Warburton and I doubt if they'd sell Tavernier who has proved very popular. Plus the player himself is getting great reaction from nearly 50,000 fans every home game, why would he want to come to Charlton?
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 5, 2015 10:16:59 GMT
At least we have seen that Solly is not cutting it anymore .... Solly and Gudmundsson are two of our best and most consistent performers. They run the right hand side of the pitch and are rarely found out at this level. The release is hinting at more attacking players depending upon how injuries pan out. That might apply to the form of midfielders and strikers too? Whether the budget is £1m, £2m or more, I fail to see why anybody would want to spend a single pound on another defender when that's clearly not the problem. |
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Post by thesunisred on Oct 5, 2015 13:56:55 GMT
At least we have seen that Solly is not cutting it anymore .... It actually says “Everybody knows we need cover at right-back" Out of interest BB, and using Solly as the bar, who would you describe as 'cutting it' this season? If you are putting Solly in the 'Not cutting it' pot, then it's going to be quite crowded in there. |
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Post by The Flying Monk on Oct 5, 2015 14:05:14 GMT
After yesterday's stormin' comeback, there's going to be a massive surge in ST sales, thus creating the finance to secure a string of first-class signings during the January window. That's what I've heard, anyway.
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Post by thevalleybest on Oct 5, 2015 14:19:54 GMT
They should have signed the players we needed last summer.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:31:41 GMT
Katie: 'Oh Roly, I am getting so many emails from these oldie supporters complaining about the squad's lack of depth and lack of skill and experience to compete in the Championship'.
Roly: 'Ungrateful, that's what they are. I gave them shiny new seats to sit on, didn't I'?
Katie: 'Yes Roly, but a lot of them are not going to come and sit in them as they are very unhappy'.
Roly: 'OK. Here's what you do. Put out a press interview that we are 'Lining up' just the kind of players they think are needed. You know, like I was 'Lining up' a new Mercedes last week and then when I saw the price of it, I went with the Skoda'.
Katie: 'But after you made me put out that we were interviewing lots of people for the manager's job and Guy was already on the Eurostar, they don't believe what I say'.
Roly: 'Yes they will. They will believe anything if it gives them hope. They are stupid football supporters. Now do the interview and don't make me tell you again'.
Katie: 'Yes, Roly. Right away'.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 15:36:02 GMT
My guess would be that's when we get the next instalment of Gomez money
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 5, 2015 17:24:00 GMT
January is still two months away, it can't take that long surely to email clubs asking who they have got available who hasn't kicked a ball for 6 months, 2 years in Ba's case!!!
That folks is the type of player we are after, cheap, reasonably talented, can't get a kick at the club they're at now and finally must have on their CV that they have played in one of Europe's top Leagues no matter how poorly.
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Post by discocafc on Oct 5, 2015 19:34:47 GMT
At least we have seen that Solly is not cutting it anymore .... What planet are you from? Solly has been our most consistent player this season. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 22:15:04 GMT
Load of old bollocks, come January it will be we tried very hard to get our targets but we just couldn't get them over the line zzzzzzzzzzzzz. Get players in at the start of the season not January. Sums it up,really. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 5, 2015 22:27:59 GMT
Last week we were over our budget....this week we are planning our January signings!!!
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 5, 2015 22:35:31 GMT
Life is so short. Do we really have time for regret and blame?
They spent around £4M on Vetokele and others in summer 2014. Although all fees undisclosed this summer, my guess is that another £4m went on players acquired?
That's about four x the limit for the last seven or eight season so why all the hard luck stories gentlemen?
If that is repeated in the next couple of windows then we might travel a bit faster in the right direction?
I fully understand if people feel cynical about being misled about previous statements building expectations but I say "fuck 'em!"
Our club and it won't stop my enjoyment of the games. Our board either get it right or chickens come home to roost.
A small hint: if the board want to build something then they might want to outline a narrative, follow through with activity and values which are consistent and then celebrate the outcome. And repeat.
It's called leadership and vision and the club needs to deliver that from the top rather than come out with alibis and scapegoats.
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 5, 2015 22:39:43 GMT
He has spent a few million on players I grant you but how many top draw players have we got for the money?
JBG and that's it.
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Post by peterhuntsbeard on Oct 5, 2015 23:44:14 GMT
No doubt they will be more dross from abroad, rather than the experienced preferably British players we need.
I do not get excited by anything the puppet says anymore. Come January we probably won't be high enough in the league for RolandRat to think it's worth spending for a push at the playoffs.
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Post by The Flying Monk on Oct 6, 2015 9:29:33 GMT
He has spent a few million on players I grant you but how many top draw players have we got for the money? JBG and that's it. This is it. I keep reading about the fine, young players we've brought in and how they'll make a nice profit when moved on (profit for who?), but I just don't see who these players are.
JBG and Cousins may sell for a profit, but we're not talking £5m-plus, are we? If, for example, Villa came in with a £1.5m bid for Cousins, RD would probably sell him and see it as pure profit, yet how much of that would be partitioned for squad strengthening?
JBG could have a distinctly average season and then leave for little more than he was initially bought for.
The whole concept of producing or buying in quality to sell on later for profit is not something that excites me - especially if it yields the same results thus far.
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Post by DFT on Oct 6, 2015 12:10:58 GMT
Done deals is what we need not targets that won't materialise!
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 6, 2015 13:21:58 GMT
We used to make £2M a year in player sales and last season that might be £5M. I have no idea how a club engineers a sale but it strikes me that the new board at CAFC might be aiming to make £5M every season to cover the losses at the club. I may be right, I may be wrong?
That in itself is certainly not exciting because it is the owner who has to cop the losses rain or shine. And what we want is improvements on the pitch. But imagine the possibility of a club which improves AND sells players at the same time.
It is the player acquisitions and the general age profile of the squad which has changed. Our new typical acquisition comes from Europe, aged 21 with U21 honours and is looking to improve with us then stay on or step up. And they are not all Eurotrash
For sure, Gudmundsson is definitely a star and I was very surprised to see him sign a long extension. Plus he was free!
But if people think he is the only talent at the club then I suggest they look again! Sounds like we will have a full squad (aside from Vetokele) after the break so I will leave the players, performances and results to do the talking. Perhaps we can't break down Preston and Brentford or maybe we storm through the month with a great points tally - that's the interest of Championship football.
And as DFT suggests, the last thing we need is jackanory with tales of the one who got away!
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Post by thevalleybest on Oct 6, 2015 15:14:44 GMT
Leon Best is a free agent as Huddersfield dont want him.Pennant where is he now?.
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Post by greenhithered on Oct 6, 2015 15:42:05 GMT
We used to make £2M a year in player sales and last season that might be £5M. I have no idea how a club engineers a sale but it strikes me that the new board at CAFC might be aiming to make £5M every season to cover the losses at the club. I may be right, I may be wrong? That in itself is certainly not exciting because it is the owner who has to cop the losses rain or shine. And what we want is improvements on the pitch. But imagine the possibility of a club which improves AND sells players at the same time. It is the player acquisitions and the general age profile of the squad which has changed. Our new typical acquisition comes from Europe, aged 21 with U21 honours and is looking to improve with us then stay on or step up. And they are not all Eurotrash For sure, Gudmundsson is definitely a star and I was very surprised to see him sign a long extension. Plus he was free! But if people think he is the only talent at the club then I suggest they look again! Sounds like we will have a full squad (aside from Vetokele) after the break so I will leave the players, performances and results to do the talking. Perhaps we can't break down Preston and Brentford or maybe we storm through the month with a great points tally - that's the interest of Championship football. And as DFT suggests, the last thing we need is jackanory with tales of the one who got away! If Iceland and in particular Gudmundsson has a good Euros next summer then it will be pretty much nailed on that he will be the next big name out the door to balance the books. Definitely a £5m plus player and will probably be looking to move on and better himself if we have another bang average season (which looks to be on the cards!). |
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Post by The Flying Monk on Oct 6, 2015 16:21:50 GMT
We used to make £2M a year in player sales and last season that might be £5M. I have no idea how a club engineers a sale but it strikes me that the new board at CAFC might be aiming to make £5M every season to cover the losses at the club. I may be right, I may be wrong? That in itself is certainly not exciting because it is the owner who has to cop the losses rain or shine. And what we want is improvements on the pitch. But imagine the possibility of a club which improves AND sells players at the same time. It is the player acquisitions and the general age profile of the squad which has changed. Our new typical acquisition comes from Europe, aged 21 with U21 honours and is looking to improve with us then stay on or step up. And they are not all Eurotrash For sure, Gudmundsson is definitely a star and I was very surprised to see him sign a long extension. Plus he was free! But if people think he is the only talent at the club then I suggest they look again! Sounds like we will have a full squad (aside from Vetokele) after the break so I will leave the players, performances and results to do the talking. Perhaps we can't break down Preston and Brentford or maybe we storm through the month with a great points tally - that's the interest of Championship football. And as DFT suggests, the last thing we need is jackanory with tales of the one who got away! Who are these prized assets, SR? I keep hearing JBG mooted as the next multi-million pound sale, but who are the others?
For me, Cousins and Solly are our best players, yet they're home-grown and played for the club well before the arrival of RD.
I am at a loss to see the brilliance of the strategy.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 17:04:33 GMT
We used to make £2M a year in player sales and last season that might be £5M. I have no idea how a club engineers a sale but it strikes me that the new board at CAFC might be aiming to make £5M every season to cover the losses at the club. I may be right, I may be wrong? That in itself is certainly not exciting because it is the owner who has to cop the losses rain or shine. And what we want is improvements on the pitch. But imagine the possibility of a club which improves AND sells players at the same time. It is the player acquisitions and the general age profile of the squad which has changed. Our new typical acquisition comes from Europe, aged 21 with U21 honours and is looking to improve with us then stay on or step up. And they are not all Eurotrash For sure, Gudmundsson is definitely a star and I was very surprised to see him sign a long extension. Plus he was free! But if people think he is the only talent at the club then I suggest they look again! Sounds like we will have a full squad (aside from Vetokele) after the break so I will leave the players, performances and results to do the talking. Perhaps we can't break down Preston and Brentford or maybe we storm through the month with a great points tally - that's the interest of Championship football. And as DFT suggests, the last thing we need is jackanory with tales of the one who got away! Who are these prized assets, SR? I keep hearing JBG mooted as the next multi-million pound sale, but who are the others?
For me, Cousins and Solly are our best players, yet they're home-grown and played for the club well before the arrival of RD.
I am at a loss to see the brilliance of the strategy.
I would rather buy proven than 'might be's'. Gudmundsson may have had a good season last year but IF he was to have a stinker this season, this could be if the team struggles, then down goes his value. I wish we could buy a few DECENT PROVEN players than f*** around the way we are at the moment......but I do not think this is going to happen unfortunately. |
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Post by valleyviper on Oct 6, 2015 18:07:26 GMT
Oh Yeah!!, just a bucket of eye wash.
Come January, we'll wait until it's too late to sign players and the CEO will advise us that the club are anticipating loan window targets will be coming soon, we know they won't!, just in the two previous January's, Total dissapointment.
Really find it hard to believe anything that comes out of her mouth in relation to signings.
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Post by reamsofverse on Oct 25, 2015 11:20:57 GMT
I just had to return to this thread after the goings on over the last 24 hours!
So we are already looking at January signings but since then the chief scout who was ignored has left and Duchatelet's 'Mr Football' - Fraeye who had no title but we all know hand picked our summer flops is now rewarded for doing so with the managers job albeit on a temporary basis!!
You couldn't make it up.
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Post by seriouslyred on Oct 25, 2015 11:43:57 GMT
We need players today in order to build for the next win.
In the programme it states that Duchatelet has tipped in £8.5m for player acquisition in 20 months. Some have been very poor. Equally some have been good.
The Gudmundsson interview in the programme suggests that he's here to stay fit and sharp for the Euros then he's gone.
What is very strange is that some fans forget we finished 12th last season and that we started well. Their narrative is so one sided that it chooses to ignore facts and games which I've seen.
Not trying to be controversial here but just saying we actually have some decent players on the books. And we need some more very very soon before a gap opens up on safety.
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Post by imacharltonfan on Oct 25, 2015 12:00:46 GMT
I just had to return to this thread after the goings on over the last 24 hours! So we are already looking at January signings but since then the chief scout who was ignored has left and Duchatelet's 'Mr Football' - Fraeye who had no title but we all know hand picked our summer flops is now rewarded for doing so with the managers job albeit on a temporary basis!! You couldn't make it up. I, like everyone else am getting fed up and don't feel the same way about a match day now. I don't really feel upset about the last two games either. However unlike most, I think Fraeye could be decent here. He will be allowed to bring in players he wants as he is the scout who has been the source of most of our signings and he knows this league after his previous spell. That's the positives however I think the only reason he is being appointend is because he is already on the pay roll and Roland is trying everyone out first before he invests in someone new. Hopefully he will be able to get the best out of Harriot again when he comes back as well. |
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