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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 15:55:22 GMT
Why o why do we sit back second half and invite pressure .Every game?
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 20, 2014 15:58:08 GMT
Right first things first Bob Peeters is obsessed with not losing the game and today I think it has cost us.
Protecting 1-0 leads against the likes of Watford is fine but when you go 1-0 at Rotherham surely the tactics should be different, the fact that it isn't is reflected in our goal difference.
To be perfectly honest with you of the five games we have drawn I would have preferred to have won a couple and lost a couple instead of remaining unbeaten through negative tactics.
Remaining unbeaten is becoming a monkey on our back, I can't see us getting anything from our next two games playing the way we are, we lack aggression and we are starting to look like we lack a little bit of quality too.
Peeters says he's happy with the squad but I don't see how he can be unless of course he see's it good enough for drawing football matches instead of winning them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 16:01:10 GMT
We are not fit enough always seem a yard slower in the second half of games.When we really should be pushing on.We need 3 more players IMO.
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 20, 2014 16:03:46 GMT
Three at least otherwise we are going to start to slide down the table if things continue.
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Post by jonkool on Sept 20, 2014 16:07:44 GMT
Good points boys.
On the fitness side the Belgium lads are finding their feet in a very physically and athletic division.
Yes Reams Bob is a clean sheet guy and has CP characteristics in dropping deeper and hoping to nick a 2nd on the breakaway.
No we are not good enough for a top 6 birth but maybe the master plan is to build up over 2 or 3 seasons whilst comfortably meeting our Fair Play targets. Still see us strengthening in January if not at the end of the month.
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Post by muttleycafc on Sept 20, 2014 16:08:00 GMT
We can score against any team so no guarantee we won't get anything from upcoming games. As you point out Reams, a negative mindset sets in which combines with opponents taking more of a risk. when we take the lead I don't know if it is Peeters or the players, but we have only been behind in one game so a bit more positivity may have resulted in losing a couple and winning a few more too! Something we have to fix- clearly a mentality issue rather than an ability one!
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Post by wellingaddick on Sept 20, 2014 16:31:30 GMT
A point away from home is always a useful result and we are still unbeaten in the championship.
But... not once in the league this season, have we come out for the second half and dominated play. BP needs to have a serious look at what he is saying, or perhaps what he is not saying, to the players at halftime. With the exception of Huddersfield, every point dropped this season has been a result of us sitting back on a one goal lead!
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Post by bexleyboy on Sept 20, 2014 16:39:19 GMT
Don't think we were negative you won't see many away teams attack like we did on the first half .. We were so on top and it was only a matter of time before we got a 2 or even a 3rd
Half time changed the game ... Gave Rotherham a chance to make changes and gave Steve Evans a chance to get into his players ...second half was like a diff game the good thing from our point of view was even through we conceded with 20 mins to go we got the point .
We are and it's clear 3 players short of becoming a very good side but how far we have cone in a short time as been fantastic and we are still unbeaten .....
Sure what Peeters says to the press and what he says to Kat and RD are very diff but who can we get if we are not going to pay silly wages that will make a diff and better then we have ??
Keep going guys we have a free week now to get all our minor knocks cleared up
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 20, 2014 16:42:09 GMT
Minor knocks? We had a full strength squad out there today played off the park by a side who have made a bad start at home.
We didn't get a 2nd or a 3rd because we rely too much on Igor. Unless we get another striker in we'll be looking for a second or third in every game we play.
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Post by ross on Sept 20, 2014 16:44:40 GMT
Right first things first Bob Peeters is obsessed with not losing the game and today I think it has cost us. Protecting 1-0 leads against the likes of Watford is fine but when you go 1-0 at Rotherham surely the tactics should be different, the fact that it isn't is reflected in our goal difference. To be perfectly honest with you of the five games we have drawn I would have preferred to have won a couple and lost a couple instead of remaining unbeaten through negative tactics. Remaining unbeaten is becoming a monkey on our back, I can't see us getting anything from our next two games playing the way we are, we lack aggression and we are starting to look like we lack a little bit of quality too. Peeters says he's happy with the squad but I don't see how he can be unless of course he see's it good enough for drawing football matches instead of winning them. Of course BP says he is happy with the squad, until he gets in someone else, he has to show the players he has faith in them |
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Post by russcoveredend on Sept 20, 2014 16:48:44 GMT
I know we got new players and yes the championship is hard for some to settle into but this cant go on soon the bubble is gonna burst, good first half didnt take our chances but to sit back in 2nd half like reams said we r making it worse for ourselves, just go fot it cos when we lose our first game im dreading the big slide down cmom bob we can do better, these r the games we should be goin for the win
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Post by jonkool on Sept 20, 2014 17:00:35 GMT
That's a big to negative to me Russ. Everyone knows we are 3 players light including KM and Roly as BP was trying to bring in two players on transfer deadline day.
I'm working on the basis that additions maybe arriving at the end of the month.
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Post by russcoveredend on Sept 20, 2014 17:21:55 GMT
That's a big to negative to me Russ. Everyone knows we are 3 players light including KM and Roly as BP was trying to bring in two players on transfer deadline day. I'm working on the basis that additions maybe arriving at the end of the month. |
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Post by russcoveredend on Sept 20, 2014 17:26:27 GMT
Sorry bout that last post meant to say yep might b a bit negative and yes your right we r 3players sort but just feel we could of won that 2day and when some of the teams at top dropped points would av been even sweeter for us
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Post by jonkool on Sept 20, 2014 17:38:08 GMT
I think we're on the same page m8 - my glass is half full given what we had to endure last season!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 17:49:21 GMT
Brief summary of the game..
We were the better side first half, well taken goal and tried to push on and kill the game . Couldnt get the second. Rotherham the worst side we have played this season apart from Colchester. Their new ground is a horrible Tupperware job with the fans dotted around like pigeon droppings. Elland Road it aint.
Second half followed now familiar pattern....after an hour our midfield wilted and then got over run. Pushed too deep, with Cousins again wasted on wing. Their goal was inevitable and they could have gone on to win.
MOM for me was JBH or Bikey. Jacko again weak and strikers largely invisible. Igor grafted but hardly saw the ball second half.
Having seen every game up to now, suggest Peeters goes back to the tactics board this week as he is too keen to defend a leader and we should beat shit like Rotherham. Would also like to know why many of our players cant last 90 min.
Fair support up there today & most of the players came over at full time.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 17:58:40 GMT
Who is JBH? and Tucadean would have been largely invisible as he played no part in the game.................you plum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 18:04:16 GMT
Who is JBH? and Tucadean would have been largely invisible as he played no part in the game.................you plum. JBG...try typing in car you twit |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 20, 2014 18:09:27 GMT
Cut!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 18:16:10 GMT
Who is JBH? and Tucadean would have been largely invisible as he played no part in the game.................you plum. JBG...try typing in car you twit I think you must have been in the car all afternoon if you think Tucadean played you wanker. Nice to have you back to normal though. |
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Post by reamsofverse on Sept 20, 2014 18:32:35 GMT
oldmod is there really any need for that? Where has he said Tucadean played? Where has he said anything to warrant the abuse aimed at him by you? Agree or disagree by all means but I would always bow down to somebody giving an opinion who was at the game and I wasn't.
Far too many insults flying around this place at the moment and too many threads are going off topic because of it.
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Post by canterburyaddick on Sept 20, 2014 19:22:21 GMT
Thanks for the summary Rorston. Think Oldmod's trying to make a name for himself, but backfired - no need for insults.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 19:34:18 GMT
There is no need for that abuse Old mod . You made yourself look like an idiot there. Royston didn't mention Tucudean
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Post by valleyviper on Sept 20, 2014 19:53:00 GMT
We score first then drop back and hang on hoping for a breakaway, not at all successfull today, or in two of the last three matches, result we are dropping 2 points a game.
Problems will arise when the opposition scores first then copies our tactics of receeding back to the 18 yard line, we will probably drop all 3 points in these games.
Under CP when we got 2 goals ahead we then dropped back and the opposition managers changed their tactics to combat this and we dropped more points than we won.
BP must get his strategy right bebore we hit November or this steady start will count for nothing as there are 12 tough matches from then until year end.
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Post by discocafc on Sept 20, 2014 20:27:24 GMT
Brief summary of the game.. We were the better side first half, well taken goal and tried to push on and kill the game . Couldnt get the second. Rotherham the worst side we have played this season apart from Colchester. Their new ground is a horrible Tupperware job with the fans dotted around like pigeon droppings. Elland Road it aint. Second half followed now familiar pattern....after an hour our midfield wilted and then got over run. Pushed too deep, with Cousins again wasted on wing. Their goal was inevitable and they could have gone on to win. MOM for me was JBH or Bikey. Jacko again weak and strikers largely invisible. Igor grafted but hardly saw the ball second half. Having seen every game up to now, suggest Peeters goes back to the tactics board this week as he is too keen to defend a leader and we should beat shit like Rotherham. Would also like to know why many of our players cant last 90 min. Fair support up there today & most of the players came over at full time. I think our biggest problem is Cousins on the wing as he is not a winger! As much as I like Jackson but he needs to be dropped with Cousins going in the middle and Bulot or even Wilson on the right wing. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 20:31:46 GMT
oldmod is there really any need for that? Where has he said Tucadean played? Where has he said anything to warrant the abuse aimed at him by you? Agree or disagree by all means but I would always bow down to somebody giving an opinion who was at the game and I wasn't. Far too many insults flying around this place at the moment and too many threads are going off topic because of it. Oh yes he did ! he typed Tucadean was largely invisible. He's edited his post. Take a look he's edited it, it tells you. I don't usually hurl insults, i leave that to you Reams. But Royston is a wind-up merchant and has added dishonesty to that today. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 20:33:28 GMT
There is no need for that abuse Old mod . You made yourself look like an idiot there. Royston didn't mention Tucudean No Dick. Not me who looks an idiot it's you and Reams for not realising Royston has edited out the stupidity he typed. |
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Post by warmki on Sept 20, 2014 21:03:19 GMT
Zzzzzz
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 22:09:20 GMT
So royston made a mistake and changed his post, does that mean he should be called a Wanker? I am getting pretty fed up with all the personal insults. I have been called a liar on CL and all i did was post a transfer rumour.
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Post by MurciaAl on Sept 20, 2014 22:16:25 GMT
Pretty even up until we scored, then I thought we played really well until half time and should have extended our lead.
Second half they challenged us high up the pitch and to be honest dominated for most of the half, think we were lucky to get away with a draw when we should have won easily.
Thought Jackson had a good first half but was pretty much anonymous in the second.
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