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Post by ridgeback on Sept 10, 2014 7:59:24 GMT
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 9:09:02 GMT
Quote from the article:
Apart from the monetary side, another prime objective is to build strong relations with the fans.
The Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust is the fans voice and strives to give the club a strong presence in the local community.
"They can help us bring more people into the ground, reach out to young people and help us to make contacts with local businesses too," says Ms Meire.
How come Katrien is not saying the supporters trust is a vanity project for the usual suspects?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 9:23:13 GMT
Quote from the article: Apart from the monetary side, another prime objective is to build strong relations with the fans. The Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust is the fans voice and strives to give the club a strong presence in the local community. "They can help us bring more people into the ground, reach out to young people and help us to make contacts with local businesses too," says Ms Meire. How come Katrien is not saying the supporters trust is a vanity project for the usual suspects? Because she knows fuck all about the history of Charlton supporter cliques. She wasn't even born when the Valley Party was founded. We saw the way RD dismissed G21 from his presence last season, akin to swatting a disease laden fly that was trying to peck on his buttocks. This is Meire's way of trying to let the CAST oddballs think they are in with a chance. |
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Post by seriouslyred on Sept 10, 2014 10:20:10 GMT
Wondering whether to let you keep going?! Perhaps the article has been changed/corrected since you looked but it references the Community Trust NOT the supporters Trust.
In the main the article is quite informative in terms of the clubs view on agents, transfer deals what we already knew: the network makes us less dependent on agents so we don't have to be turned over. And that the club was a bit of a mess when they took over so a few have lost their jobs.
As I stated, I won't be doing a kiss and tell but what she writes rings true with what I saw when I was involved in the supporters Trust.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 10:28:04 GMT
Wondering whether to let you keep going?! Perhaps the article has been changed/corrected since you looked but it references the Community Trust NOT the supporters Trust. In the main the article is quite informative in terms of the clubs view on agents, transfer deals what we already knew: the network makes us less dependent on agents so we don't have to be turned over. And that the club was a bit of a mess when they took over so a few have lost their jobs. As I stated, I won't be doing a kiss and tell but what she writes rings true with what I saw when I was involved in the supporters Trust. It clearly refers to CAST. |
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 11:12:40 GMT
You are both right about CAST, the reference was immediately after the bit about 'strong relations with the fans' so it is an easy mistake to make and I hold my hands up to that.
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 11:13:37 GMT
Mind you I don't think Katrien is anti the supporters Trust at all.
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Post by overthetop on Sept 10, 2014 11:14:25 GMT
Wondering whether to let you keep going?! Perhaps the article has been changed/corrected since you looked but it references the Community Trust NOT the supporters Trust. In the main the article is quite informative in terms of the clubs view on agents, transfer deals what we already knew: the network makes us less dependent on agents so we don't have to be turned over. And that the club was a bit of a mess when they took over so a few have lost their jobs. As I stated, I won't be doing a kiss and tell but what she writes rings true with what I saw when I was involved in the supporters Trust. It clearly refers to CAST. Does it? Does it really? " The Charlton Athletic Community Trust strives to give the club a strong presence in the local community". "They can help us bring more people into the ground, reach out to young people and help us to make contacts with local businesses too," says Ms Meire. But you carry on seeing what you want to see and posting unadulterated bollocks. Roll on your next ban. |
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 11:15:01 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 11:25:48 GMT
It clearly refers to CAST. Does it? Does it really? " The Charlton Athletic Community Trust strives to give the club a strong presence in the local community". "They can help us bring more people into the ground, reach out to young people and help us to make contacts with local businesses too," says Ms Meire. But you carry on seeing what you want to see and posting unadulterated bollocks. Roll on your next ban. What are you posting about, you humourless fool ? Have a look at the original post - the word community did not feature. |
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Post by overthetop on Sept 10, 2014 11:43:28 GMT
Read the article.
And you call me the fool.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 11:57:55 GMT
Read the article. And you call me the fool. Read my original comment that used webbo's quote. |
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Post by muttleycafc on Sept 10, 2014 12:17:27 GMT
The most interesting bit for me was the reference to the English style manager. I don’t want to begin a debate on the merits of Powell etc…. We have had that on numerous occasions and best for everybody to agree to disagree. But it is pretty clear that any manager working under this regime needs to be a coach who can provide input but allows others to make the recruitment decisions. I’m sure Peeters will have provided said input for Vetokele as he is a player that previously played for him, so we can see the system works.
But for it to work you need everybody playing to the same rules. I wonder if that might have been an issue with Riga. He was in a strong position and didn’t seem to rate the players that were brought in in January. Is it possible that he might have wanted a bit more control than RD’s model was willing to give? Going back further, my understanding that a big reason why Dowie was sacked was that he wanted a bit more control than he signed up to (more so than the results) as the then board tried to adopt a more continental approach. Then being in a desperate position, Pardew was appointed back in the more traditional role.
Emotive to say one system is right and another is wrong, as clearly with the right personnel both can be successful. But it may provide an insight for those who don’t want to engage in simplistic right or wrong terms in relation to individuals. It also re-affirms why Peeters is the best man for the job as it is today. We have a new system – a continental system and the people working to that system are committed to it. We should be happy with that.
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Post by ashaddick on Sept 10, 2014 12:20:54 GMT
It clearly states COMMUNITY TRUST, which of course is an award winning part of the clubs set up and not a group of individuals who are one step away from the club, but with whom I personally have no axe to grind.
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Post by wellingaddick on Sept 10, 2014 14:40:38 GMT
The most interesting bit for me was the reference to the English style manager. I don’t want to begin a debate on the merits of Powell etc…. We have had that on numerous occasions and best for everybody to agree to disagree. But it is pretty clear that any manager working under this regime needs to be a coach who can provide input but allows others to make the recruitment decisions. I’m sure Peeters will have provided said input for Vetokele as he is a player that previously played for him, so we can see the system works. But for it to work you need everybody playing to the same rules. I wonder if that might have been an issue with Riga. He was in a strong position and didn’t seem to rate the players that were brought in in January. Is it possible that he might have wanted a bit more control than RD’s model was willing to give? Going back further, my understanding that a big reason why Dowie was sacked was that he wanted a bit more control than he signed up to (more so than the results) as the then board tried to adopt a more continental approach. Then being in a desperate position, Pardew was appointed back in the more traditional role. Emotive to say one system is right and another is wrong, as clearly with the right personnel both can be successful. But it may provide an insight for those who don’t want to engage in simplistic right or wrong terms in relation to individuals. It also re-affirms why Peeters is the best man for the job as it is today. We have a new system – a continental system and the people working to that system are committed to it. We should be happy with that. KM and RM said at the fun day that BP has an input on new players, which is something I don't think Dowie had, (but more fool him for agreeing to such a contract). Certainly the signings of JFH, Faye and Traore seemed to be Curbishley recommendations that RM and Andy Mills followed through, as signings of players who simply played in the positions required to be filled, as opposed to the merits of the actual players themselves, or indeed if Dowie actually wanted them.
I think this system will work, as long as there are sufficient safety nets, that were not apparent in the summer of 2006.
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Post by ridgeback on Sept 10, 2014 16:34:03 GMT
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Post by Reamsisgod on Sept 10, 2014 17:31:51 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed. You are a fucking prick |
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 17:38:46 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed. You are a fucking prick It's pricks like me that make cunts like you go all moist with excitement though. |
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Post by Reamsisgod on Sept 10, 2014 17:41:48 GMT
It's pricks like me that make cunts like you go all moist with excitement though. Is that the best you can do. Anyway I am not a cunt I have nor ever will be a member of CAS Trust. |
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Post by webbo on Sept 10, 2014 17:49:38 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed. You are a fucking prick Is that the best you can do?
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Post by Reamsisgod on Sept 10, 2014 17:53:26 GMT
Is that the best you can do?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 17:56:19 GMT
Cut the verbal sniping at each other, it does no credit to either of you. I am politely asking you to stop it now before it completely out of hand.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 18:08:02 GMT
It's pricks like me that make cunts like you go all moist with excitement though. ITTV at its best  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2014 20:05:13 GMT
It's pricks like me that make cunts like you go all moist with excitement though. I'm sorry but that made me laugh so hard I think a bit of wee escaped! Lmao! |
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Post by ashaddick on Sept 10, 2014 20:26:52 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed. The BBC article is still there in its original form for all to read, it is entitled " Centre Spot " and clearly discusses the clubs very own COMMUNITY TRUST. Now are we really to believe that some dark force at the BBC changed that from SUPPORTERS TRUST ? I think not, the two trusts are poles apart, one does a fantastic job and has rightly been recognised for its services, the other is open to question and opinion. I say again though, I have no problem with the supporters trust or those that feel they need to belong. |
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Post by discocafc on Sept 10, 2014 20:42:30 GMT
Hate to sound obvious here but I would |
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Post by fuzzydunlop on Sept 11, 2014 8:11:01 GMT
Actually I cut and pasted my original quote from the BBC article, so it is a bit strange that it has changed. The BBC article is still there in its original form for all to read, it is entitled " Centre Spot " and clearly discusses the clubs very own COMMUNITY TRUST. Now are we really to believe that some dark force at the BBC changed that from SUPPORTERS TRUST ? I think not, the two trusts are poles apart, one does a fantastic job and has rightly been recognised for its services, the other is open to question and opinion. I say again though, I have no problem with the supporters trust or those that feel they need to belong. In fairness, when I first read the article yesterday morning, it did indeed say supporters trust. I don't for one minute believe there are any "dark forces" at bay, I assume it was simply a mistake in the original article that has subsequently been amended. |
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Post by ashaddick on Sept 11, 2014 10:19:28 GMT
The BBC article is still there in its original form for all to read, it is entitled " Centre Spot " and clearly discusses the clubs very own COMMUNITY TRUST. Now are we really to believe that some dark force at the BBC changed that from SUPPORTERS TRUST ? I think not, the two trusts are poles apart, one does a fantastic job and has rightly been recognised for its services, the other is open to question and opinion. I say again though, I have no problem with the supporters trust or those that feel they need to belong. In fairness, when I first read the article yesterday morning, it did indeed say supporters trust. I don't for one minute believe there are any "dark forces" at bay, I assume it was simply a mistake in the original article that has subsequently been amended. Well I accept your more in depth knowledge, but as a typo it was clearly wrong and has since, as you rightly said, been amended. It is now clearly time to accept it and move on, and others to stop bickering like inane school brats. |
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Post by fuzzydunlop on Sept 11, 2014 10:49:22 GMT
In fairness, when I first read the article yesterday morning, it did indeed say supporters trust. I don't for one minute believe there are any "dark forces" at bay, I assume it was simply a mistake in the original article that has subsequently been amended. Well I accept your more in depth knowledge, but as a typo it was clearly wrong and has since, as you rightly said, been amended. It is now clearly time to accept it and move on, and others to stop bickering like inane school brats. Nice idea but I don't ever think the ridiculous bickering on here will end. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2014 10:58:01 GMT
Well I accept your more in depth knowledge, but as a typo it was clearly wrong and has since, as you rightly said, been amended. It is now clearly time to accept it and move on, and others to stop bickering like inane school brats. Nice idea but I don't ever think the ridiculous bickering on here will end. Pots & kettles spring to mind. |
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